Your ingame nick:FrewpCraxKeR
Suggestion for Forum/Server:Server
Suggestion (Well explained):
Extra:bring back the continent detection system and remove the country system or put , They did a vote on discord to put that country system, and another to not put it and literally if you are going to see who voted 95% are from Pakistan, what does that mean? That for people from other countries it is not convenient for us, since it does not matter if a player from Pakistan uses an alias, since there are many players from that country that it is impossible to know who it is, now if a player for example is from India, Egypt, among other countries, also such as Latin Americans, Argentina, Mexico Dominican Republic, Honduras, it will be known who the players are since there are not many of these countries, in the end that system only harms players from other countries, in my opinion it would be better if they only put the message of uniting without continent or country but I know that they will not accept that, then bring back the system of continents, Probably people from Pakistan will not agree because as I said they are the same ones who want this system to be implemented since they like to have an advantage over the other players, But as broly once told me, on the server people from all over play not only Pakistani.
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Majority of votes were in favour of country and i myself is in favour of country message.
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Underalias players most likely allways have joined in the server using lag-tools when I was admin, that's why I never wanted to protect the underalias players.
If you do /alias on a player from cafe you will see more than 45 aliases on them... half of those have been banned for atleast 3 days for multiple minimum brake rules.
As you have seen since this update was applied the counter player of AC have increased 20%, the members from clans have even joined more because now they use their tags and it's country is being applied on their nicks, since when this wasn't a feature they preferred to join underalias to fight everyone instead of being roleplaying since they have too many friends.
100% -1
-1 Yo quiero saber cuando Dadero entra a trollearme.
In your next app dont use google translate please, -1
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SIDE NOTE: This is just going to push the development of VPN and VPN ban-bypassing.
+ it violates anything related to "privacy" (if anyone from the officials even give 2 fs about this)
The (opposing) majority should go finger themselves in the sphincter & enjoy the pleasure while it lasts before reaching climax, IMO.
"Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" was a game developed by westerners, and the sequential mod "Vice City - Multiplayer" was developed by westerners too.
Doesn't matter that it's riddled with human-form cockroaches these days.
Know each Creation's roots & know your places, if you remotely expect any hope for Change. It's smth called "respect" and "honor".
Leave the serious-topic voting to the sane-minded & go back to what you were good at, that is - making mud bricks & herding goats, and helping the Afghans' in their cannabis-industry's production & logistics.
(sane-minded Pakistani people - excluded. You're welcomed.)
Right now, I can see that majority is in favour of the country and I cannot go on removing it. Yes we can think of a workaround.
How about allow people to hide their country using a command? This way, the people who want their country to be shown, they should not have any issues.
Quote from: [RT]UmaR^ on Mar 07, 2025, 07:14 PMHow about allow people to hide their country using a command? This way, the people who want their country to be shown, they should not have any issues.
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Just like the /hidestats cmd. But then again - once you >initially< connect & your location is exposed - to hell with that suggestion once everything is logged & set-in-stone into any echo's. Why should a sensitive topic like "privacy" be handed over to the dumbass majority? It's insane, man...
Why not - right now - have the admins expose the initial suggester (of this recent implementation)'s IP to the public - right here and now - so I can send him a special postcard with my own signature on it & an after-bean-soup digested fart laid inside the envelope? See how he feels about it.
https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=privacy&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
Quote from: [RT]UmaR^ on Mar 07, 2025, 07:14 PMRight now, I can see that majority is in favour of the country and I cannot go on removing it. Yes we can think of a workaround.
How about allow people to hide their country using a command? This way, the people who want their country to be shown, they should not have any issues.
If that's the case then what's the point of adding country connecting message? The majority of votes(80%) were in favour of adding the country, it was done and sorted.
Yet again these bastards trying to revert the decision and still majority of players are in favour of retaining the country connecting message.
Quote from: killer frost^ on Mar 07, 2025, 07:23 PMQuote from: [RT]UmaR^ on Mar 07, 2025, 07:14 PMRight now, I can see that majority is in favour of the country and I cannot go on removing it. Yes we can think of a workaround.
How about allow people to hide their country using a command? This way, the people who want their country to be shown, they should not have any issues.
If that's the case then what's the point of adding country connecting message? The majority of votes(80%) were in favour of adding the country, it was done and sorted.
Yet again these bastards trying to revert the decision and still majority of players are in favour of retaining the country connecting message.
Now why should the Minority be left out & made put up with the Majority on a personal & sensitive topic like this? Sure - broadcast to the World where you're from - if that's what you want - but why should I be forced to broadcast myself? (or anyone else that would rather not)
Nice idea about cmd for hide your country, everyone who wants can use /hidecountry and it doesn't affect no one, if staff watch all the opinions in this suggestion are 90% from pakistan, is a bit unbalanced if we watch if they wants to use underalias,they can because of their country but if one guy from Africa or countrys not much knowed in vcmp people already know who is him, and this cmd is good for hide your country if you want some privacity.
Well sorry for interfering but it would be good idea if the staff make poll in AC discord about that cmd to see the players opinion
Well, it would be a totally unbalanced poll, since 90% voted -1 for the suggestion because they are from Pakistan and do not want the countries to be overwhelmed by aliases,Really the superior staff like Broly should think about doing this thinking about all the players not to be carried away by the quantity but to make the server of good quality
yeah it's up to the staff decision.
Arguments in favor of /country: Helps identify ban evaders and maintain server security.
Arguments against /country: Raises concerns about targeted harassment based on their country, discrimination, and player privacy.
To address both concerns, the obvious middle ground is to make /country command accessible only to admins. This ensures that players' privacy is protected while still allowing admins to monitor for potential ban evasion.
This change provides a fair compromise, if both parties are okay with it.
Honestly, I don't see any disadvantage in hiding the country, obviously players prefer to play under alias and it will also be more competitive that way. As per this scenario, I observe...
Quote from: Amal on Mar 08, 2025, 07:08 AMArguments against /country: Raises concerns about targeted harassment based on their country, discrimination, and player privacy.
Frewp is from Honduras and he doesn't want to be easily identified when playing under an alias. Since only a few players are from Honduras, others will easily identify and target him.
Be it enabled/disabled, I believe server staff can monitor everything effectively.
Well, I didn't make this suggestion so much for myself but for people ssjznake, lederhos among others, these players are almost the only ones who play from their countries, and it's unfair for most Latinos, playing doesn't matter if I use aliases since it doesn't help me at all since I'm the only player from my country, Among other players, on the other hand, people from popular countries such as Pakistan can use aliases as many times as they want and you will never know who they are
Quote from: Amal on Mar 08, 2025, 07:08 AMArguments in favor of /country: Helps identify ban evaders and maintain server security.
Arguments against /country: Raises concerns about targeted harassment based on their country, discrimination, and player privacy.
To address both concerns, the obvious middle ground is to make /country command accessible only to admins. This ensures that players' privacy is protected while still allowing admins to monitor for potential ban evasion.
This change provides a fair compromise, if both parties are okay with it.
AC has a recognition system of those who evade, I also believe that they have access to see the IPs, the subnets among other things of the players that could easily detect who they were evading, the only capable who can evade AC is hunting, I have not seen for more than 2 years someone evading that is not him, It would be something very clear
Quote from: Amal on Mar 08, 2025, 07:08 AMArguments in favor of /country: Helps identify ban evaders and maintain server security.
Arguments against /country: Raises concerns about targeted harassment based on their country, discrimination, and player privacy.
To address both concerns, the obvious middle ground is to make /country command accessible only to admins. This ensures that players' privacy is protected while still allowing admins to monitor for potential ban evasion.
This change provides a fair compromise, if both parties are okay with it.
The poll was pure bullshit. It was never really about catching ban evaders since y'all can already track them with UIDs and IPs. It's more about Pakistani players wanting to keep under-aliases for themselves and it's crazy how they managed to drag a whole damn country to vote in that shitty poll and here lol.
However, bringing back /country suprisingly ended up boosting player numbers. My two cents here is to wait for few weeks and see if the high player count holds or if it's just a temporary bump due to Ramadan.
And ultimately, it's up to the directors to decide whether Asian City should remain an underalias shitshow or not.
or simply that players can enter with their real names as is done in RTV that you can only have an account with your real name, because as Beatz said, everyone can use aliases except players from certain countries, it is something super unfair how others can play without being discovered when others even if they enter with aliases are instantly recognized
Regarding this suggestion, although everyone is against it, frewp is right. It would be good to be able to hide the nationality since any Pakistani player who claims to be my friend can enter with an alias and attack me without knowing who he is. But if a player from Venezuela like me or Honduras like frewp or Colombia does that, it will be known who he is immediately. Because, let's be honest, how many players are there of those nationalities? 1, maybe 2 at most.
Pakis every time has been the poor players in the vcmp community they loved advantage and hacks in golden era 2013 to 2016 Pakis was considered as trash in community I don't have hate for them just am saying the true as old player.
Quote from: TDA.LinK187 on Mar 10, 2025, 05:28 AMPakis every time has been the poor players in the vcmp community they loved advantage and hacks in golden era 2013 to 2016 Pakis was considered as trash in community I don't have hate for them just am saying the true as old player.
Your words means nothing here in this section. Keep in mind its a suggestion section.
hackers want to hack underalias 8)
Quote from: Gohan on Mar 10, 2025, 06:47 PMhackers want to hack underalias 8)
Currently everyone in pakistan plays underaliases, don't come with your stupid arguments to say "the one who uses underalias is because he is going to use hacks", the administrators have access to the aliases of the players so at the time of reporting the administrators already know who it is, I have reported at least 5 underalias players hacking this month, Whether you implement this or not there will always be people who hack, but coming from someone like you the word "hack" seems absurd to me since you spend your time accusing anyone you can't kill of hacking, thanks god you got kicked from AC staff..
To be very honest, not showing country would open a gate for ban evaders and hackers, they will ban evade without anyone knowing.. staff can't be here in the server 24/7 and a ban evader would enjoy playing without any hesitation or care about the ban and no one will notice it either, for example the Yuko and the Yuki along with Burak and few others who are well known hackers and ban-evaders would get an advantage.
So for the sake of server and keeping it clean, you should keep the country joining message as voted by majority.
Few people want to have a free hand for playing with hacks and evade the bans without anyone knowing since only server that is active right now is AC.
Quote from: killer frost^ on Mar 10, 2025, 10:12 PMTo be very honest, not showing country would open a gate for ban evaders and hackers, they will ban evade without anyone knowing.. staff can't be here in the server 24/7 and a ban evader would enjoy playing without any hesitation or care about the ban and no one will notice it either, for example the Yuko and the Yuki along with Burak and few others who are well known hackers and ban-evaders would get an advantage.
So for the sake of server and keeping it clean, you should keep the country joining message as voted by majority.
Few people want to have a free hand for playing with hacks and evade the bans without anyone knowing since only server that is active right now is AC.
1. Those who evade Bans are easily detected by administrators (who can see the countries), this suggestion is only for players, administrators already have commands that allow you to see aliases and countries. And yet with this system players can easily evade ban, as Yuko, Hunting, Capo etc have done
2.So only people from popular countries (pakistan for example) can use aliases and "hacks"? As it was with Anzal Marson, Darvin, Doraemon, Faraday, Awais, and if we go to the list of bans of Aurora, literally 90% are cafers, or people from a popular country like Pakistan, you can't find anyone from Latin America, or India or other countries. This excuse that they can use hacks with aliases, if someone uses hacks with aliases that's what reports are for, right? he reports and leaves banned. It doesn't make a difference whether someone plays with aliases or not. Bring something to help the suggestion please, you just copied and pasted Gohan's opinion in a few words.
3. you said staff isnt in server 24/7, but moderator and adminstrators like vatan, 7789, signature, broly, zeex, md619, nashai, niko, amal, even fulton (i dont consider him part from the staff.) are constantly in the server.
Being a hacker depends on who is a coward and does not know how to play, just because someone uses hacks not all underalias will use hacks. (dont make your drama bullshit here let professional people talk about serious problems in the server.)
Nigga talks about professionalism LMFAO.
dude what you wrote above doesn't really make sense, you're trying hard to save your ass from gang rape by hiding your identity and country LOL but your poor English and rat skills exposes you everytime. Haha.
Not every admin is online 24/7, ban evaders will get away with it and bans won't matter anymore as it will make things harder for clean players like myself.
Quote from: killer frost^ on Mar 10, 2025, 11:54 PMNigga talks about professionalism LMFAO.
dude what you wrote above doesn't really make sense, you're trying hard to save your ass from gang rape by hiding your identity and country LOL but your poor English and rat skills exposes you everytime. Haha.
Not every admin is online 24/7, ban evaders will get away with it and bans won't matter anymore as it will make things harder for clean players like myself.
Stop repeating the same paragraphs. Go make drama on Discord where you are ignored by everyone.
Let's say they don't want to add this system, could they at least hide the nationality of the trusted players? That's why it really doesn't seem fair to me that a person from Pakistan can use an alias to attack me without knowing who he is and then say that he is my friend :v it's quite strange, I'm not saying that they do it, but there's no way for me to know lol since probably if someone does something like that with an alias and then acts as a friend it's most likely that it won't be taken well at all since that's hypocrisy what we're trying to do here is maintain equality or well if they don't want to at least make a system like RTV where they can't use another account, This has nothing to do with hacks as our friend Gohan says, maybe he is right, people with aliases can use hacks because I have seen many with aliases using lagtools and even aimlock, but if they put a system like rtv it would be great, they would report it, goodbye problem, if they make everyone have aliases whenever they want, well, things will be tough, but at least there will be equality, the hacker can be reported or banned instantly on the server, thank god the admins can know who he is.
Quote from: SsjZnaKer on Mar 11, 2025, 12:05 AMLet's say they don't want to add this system, could they at least hide the nationality of the trusted players? That's why it really doesn't seem fair to me that a person from Pakistan can use an alias to attack me without knowing who he is and then say that he is my friend :v it's quite strange, I'm not saying that they do it, but there's no way for me to know lol since probably if someone does something like that with an alias and then acts as a friend it's most likely that it won't be taken well at all since that's hypocrisy what we're trying to do here is maintain equality or well if they don't want to at least make a system like RTV where they can't use another account, This has nothing to do with hacks as our friend Gohan says, maybe he is right, people with aliases can use hacks because I have seen many with aliases using lagtools and even aimlock, but if they put a system like rtv it would be great, they would report it, goodbye problem, if they make everyone have aliases whenever they want, well, things will be tough, but at least there will be equality, the hacker can be reported or banned instantly on the server, thank god the admins can know who he is.
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Quote from: FrewpCraxKeR on Mar 11, 2025, 12:04 AMQuote from: killer frost^ on Mar 10, 2025, 11:54 PMNigga talks about professionalism LMFAO.
dude what you wrote above doesn't really make sense, you're trying hard to save your ass from gang rape by hiding your identity and country LOL but your poor English and rat skills exposes you everytime. Haha.
Not every admin is online 24/7, ban evaders will get away with it and bans won't matter anymore as it will make things harder for clean players like myself.
Stop repeating the same paragraphs. Go make drama on Discord where you are ignored by everyone.
And you won't dare to chat in discord because you're way too scared of bullying LMAO, no wonder we made you a clown and raped you soo bad in chat and in game hh to the point where you have to beg to admins to hide your country so that you can avoid rape LMAO
The reason for these problems is that many players pretend to be friends in reality and secretly connect to the server with new names and attack their friends
Thus they exploit this new system as an advantage and it is difficult to identify them
Unlike other countries that are considered a minority, if someone does this act, he will be quickly exposed
In conclusion, there are two options
Either to prevent playing with multiple accounts and thus you have the right to one account
Or to return the previous system
https://ibb.co/Kc83sq4b
I ask this question to all the staff, do you really think that for players, it's fun to play against these types of people? 'Cause I'd really rather play other games than fight people who know who I am and I don't know who they are
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Quote from: SpicyCurry39 on Mar 07, 2025, 06:50 PM+1
SIDE NOTE: This is just going to push the development of VPN and VPN ban-bypassing.
+ it violates anything related to "privacy" (if anyone from the officials even give 2 fs about this)
The (opposing) majority should go finger themselves in the sphincter & enjoy the pleasure while it lasts before reaching climax, IMO.
"Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" was a game developed by westerners, and the sequential mod "Vice City - Multiplayer" was developed by westerners too.
Doesn't matter that it's riddled with human-form cockroaches these days.
Know each Creation's roots & know your places, if you remotely expect any hope for Change. It's smth called "respect" and "honor".
Leave the serious-topic voting to the sane-minded & go back to what you were good at, that is - making mud bricks & herding goats, and helping the Afghans' in their cannabis-industry's production & logistics.
(sane-minded Pakistani people - excluded. You're welcomed.)
I agree w/ this mf. kek
Sometimes a dawg just wants to chill... unbothered. [by the cuntery edgy teenagers]
This is the Internet, not real life. Get over y'all's selves.
Owners/High-level Admins have access to IP & subnet stuff (or w/e it's called). And I know this for a fact. Some puny alias thing isn't a problem.
No excuses on this one. Just biased pakistani nationalistic monke power-hunting otherwise. (judging - at the very least so far - by the nationality of everyone here that casted a -1, lol)
P.S. Owner is a massive snitch.
The country-based system was implemented based on majority preference, and changing it again could create inconsistency. Many players favor keeping it as it enhances recognition and competition, while others argue that it compromises privacy, especially for those from smaller regions. Both perspectives have merit, but any change should be based on broader community feedback rather than individual concerns. I myself voted against the country-based system, as I preferred using continents instead. However, since the majority voted in favor, it makes sense to respect that decision. If a significant portion of players later support a revision, introducing an optional setting to display either country or continent or allowable on/off /country cmd could be a reasonable compromise.
Quote from: SherLock on Mar 13, 2025, 04:34 AMThe country-based system was implemented based on majority preference, and changing it again could create inconsistency. Many players favor keeping it as it enhances recognition and competition, while others argue that it compromises privacy, especially for those from smaller regions. Both perspectives have merit, but any change should be based on broader community feedback rather than individual concerns. I myself voted against the country-based system, as I preferred using continents instead. However, since the majority voted in favor, it makes sense to respect that decision. If a significant portion of players later support a revision, introducing an optional setting to display either country or continent or allowable on/off /country cmd could be a reasonable compromise.
By that logic — why not just give out to the public players' exact geographical location? So the "competition" could continue beyond the invisible walls of Vice City, kek (& kill the purpose of what VC-MP was supposed to be about — a training ground for real life, seperate from real life's consequences)
You want competition? Come loc bf.
Anything beyond that — be it players doing psychological warfare on the Discords, or mixing the "cyber" with "real life" & doxxing beyond the confines of the game — should be a free
choice for each player if he wants to get involved, not something enforced on him.
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Quote from: kyber7 on Mar 13, 2025, 06:59 AMQuote from: SherLock on Mar 13, 2025, 04:34 AMThe country-based system was implemented based on majority preference, and changing it again could create inconsistency. Many players favor keeping it as it enhances recognition and competition, while others argue that it compromises privacy, especially for those from smaller regions. Both perspectives have merit, but any change should be based on broader community feedback rather than individual concerns. I myself voted against the country-based system, as I preferred using continents instead. However, since the majority voted in favor, it makes sense to respect that decision. If a significant portion of players later support a revision, introducing an optional setting to display either country or continent or allowable on/off /country cmd could be a reasonable compromise.
By that logic — why not just give out to the public players' exact geographical location? So the "competition" could continue beyond the invisible walls of Vice City, kek (& kill the purpose of what VC-MP was supposed to be about — a training ground for real life, seperate from real life's consequences)
You want competition? Come loc bf.
Anything beyond that — be it players doing psychological warfare on the Discords, or mixing the "cyber" with "real life" & doxxing beyond the confines of the game — should be a free choice for each player if he wants to get involved, not something enforced on him.
I guess you misunderstood the term "competition". In online games, it's all about showcasing skills and tactics. The players who perform better, outsmart others, and make the best strategic moves are considered more skillful. In short, that's what we call competition among players. I'm not referring to anything involving real-life details or location sharing. It's simply about the gameplay and how players compete within the game itself, not mixing it with real-world consequences. If the word "competition" bothers you that much, maybe this isn't the right place for you. However, I don't want to argue with you about off-topic matters anymore. As a player, I showed my opinion, thats all.
Quote from: SherLock on Mar 13, 2025, 10:45 AM...
Nothing is misunderstood at all, mate.
As I mentioned in my previous post — "come loc bf" (& the quote in my signature "Skill b4 kill" too) — I'm all for the same.
But you seem to underestimate the power of the ⚫ Dark Side in each human's psyche (& some players' unawareness of that, in themselves especially), & how things could sometimes easily get out of hand, especially when the external environment promotes things getting out of hand, lol.
I've read enough Robert Greene & reddit stories of murdered gamers irl to know that it's a possibility. (at the very least)
And you're saying it yourself right now: Competition = Skill. Tf does "competition" (skill-wise) have anything to do with exposing players' identity then? (in any shape & form)
A skill is a skill, no matter whose hyper-Ego / alternative image/identity is behind that skill.
The only thing that has anything to do with anything is when "skill-wise" competition goes beyond & into psychological warfare / doxxing (or any type of warfare for that matter)
Nothing against any type of "warfare" in the game, ofc. But it should be a free choice for players (if they wanna get involved beyond "loc bf" competition). Not something enforced by the external environment.
I think instead of removing the country system, the server should implement a 1-2 account limit, where players can have only one main account and one practice account which would prevent excessive account creation while still allowing some flexibility for players to choose from,
Personally as someone who enjoys uploading VCMP gameplay videos, I find it much less appealing to upload footage of a player using an alias rather than their real name, having players use their known identities makes it clearer who is fighting who, rather than just showcasing fights against random named players
Regardless of personal opinions, this system not only helps manage the server's database but also benefits the community by encouraging personal growth, when players use their real names they become more recognizable and build a stronger identity within the game's community,
I'm not voting +1 or -1 on this suggestion because I believe the server needs a system that is better than both the current one and the one you're proposing.