Custom prop system

Started by GerZ, Aug 12, 2024, 09:28 PM

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Aug 12, 2024, 09:28 PM Last Edit: Aug 16, 2024, 05:12 PM by Broly
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Suggestion for Forum/Server: server
Suggestion (Well explained):

Basically a custom world system in which players can create their own world, in which they'll be able to invite others to, like the VKs one or the Viceland one

Extra:

I'm a deathmatch player, and I wouldn't make such a suggestion if I had another choice, but sadly it is unbearable at this point,

Each time I try to duel a player, some random guy tends to keep following us and disturb our duel, wherever we go, especially those underalias players who don't care about their stats, they keep dying constantly but respawning constantly to disturb us,

There's no other way to solve this problem except a locked world system in which we can duel players in peace with no disturbance from the outside, for me this would be my personal reason behind why I really want this to happen,

As for in general, this would actually be useful incase some players don't wanna deathmatch and just wanna roam around in cars and listen to music, or do friendly races without being chased nor disturbed by others,

it'll also allow the players to host their custom events and fun ideas which can keep others entertained,


I understand people want this server to be exactly like EC, but throwing away all that fun ideas that can be implemented in this 2002 game, is unfair too, you need to stop being attached to the past and try to create new memories with such ideas.


+1
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Aug 12, 2024, 09:49 PM #2 Last Edit: Aug 12, 2024, 09:58 PM by [RT]UmaR^
Well having a prop system might introduce lag because of the custom objects. I think you know it from VKs too Gerz. And for dueling, you got /duel.

Also, the vehicles you see are in world 1 only. Allowing free roaming in cars in different worlds mean more vehicles in different worlds which can also contribute to the lag.

I honestly dont like the idea of it. Currently, many players go underalias just to have fun and do DM. Introducing locked world means they wont be able to enjoy DM as most of the people would go their props and lock it.

Aug 12, 2024, 10:04 PM #3 Last Edit: Aug 12, 2024, 10:07 PM by GerZ
Quote from: [RT]UmaR^ on Aug 12, 2024, 09:49 PMWell having a prop system might introduce lag because of the custom objects. I think you know it from VKs too Gerz. And for dueling, you got /duel.

Also, the vehicles you see are in world 1 only. Allowing free roaming in cars in different worlds mean more vehicles in different worlds which can also contribute to the lag.

I honestly dont like the idea of it. Currently, many players go underalias just to have fun and do DM. Introducing locked world means they wont be able to enjoy DM as most of the people would go their props and lock it.

The server's host was recently upgraded and I'm sure it can handle custom worlds lol, VKs used to be laggy because of the amount of custom skins + moving NPCs and /job commands you forgot such game modes? Viceland was the first server i played in when i joined vcmp and it had a worlds system and there was no lag whatsoever.

as for the /duel stuff, no one likes to do it there, 99% of players duel outside of it, many players want a fun duel in a place of their choosing rather than something strict with scores and a timer

as for your last point, so you're saying players should be forced to be disturbed during the duels because the disturbers "wont be able to enjoy DM, if players wanted their privacy"

your point is one-sided, you are not thinking about those players who would actually leave the server and go into an empty one just to duel rather than having to face those people who will disturb them



If players are teleporting & interrupting in your duel then you can have a official /dual challange instead
custom prop like vks is a good feature i'd agree but it doesn't seem to be important at all when you have /duel & the abilities

Quote from: GerZ on Aug 12, 2024, 10:04 PM
Quote from: [RT]UmaR^ on Aug 12, 2024, 09:49 PMWell having a prop system might introduce lag because of the custom objects. I think you know it from VKs too Gerz. And for dueling, you got /duel.

Also, the vehicles you see are in world 1 only. Allowing free roaming in cars in different worlds mean more vehicles in different worlds which can also contribute to the lag.

I honestly dont like the idea of it. Currently, many players go underalias just to have fun and do DM. Introducing locked world means they wont be able to enjoy DM as most of the people would go their props and lock it.

The server's host was recently upgraded and I'm sure it can handle custom worlds lol, VKs used to be laggy because of the amount of custom skins + moving NPCs and /job commands you forgot such game modes? Viceland was the first server i played in when i joined vcmp and it had a worlds system and there was no lag whatsoever.

as for the /duel stuff, no one likes to do it there, 99% of players duel outside of it, many players want a fun duel in a place of their choosing rather than something strict with scores and a timer

as for your last point, so you're saying players should be forced to be disturbed during the duels because the disturbers "wont be able to enjoy DM, if players wanted their privacy"

your point is one-sided, you are not thinking about those players who would actually leave the server and go into an empty one just to duel rather than having to face those people who will disturb them

1. Yes the server VPS is upgraded but even if you have like 64gbs of ram and multiple objects + vehicles in diff worlds, you might still feel lag. It is not dependent only on the vps. Having so many objects mean creating them all on server side. In terms of scripting, comparing "CreateObject" is laggy than XML file and XML file does not support creating objects while running the server and also it is not world specific.


2. Yes you might be right on this. But we can always change /duel. Add more common locations, ability to remove time limit and extended round limits.

3. It is not that I am supporting disturbers. Like it is just my opinion. And everyone can give their opinion here i guess 😅. Still I feel, upgrading /duel is better than having custom props to keep the server less laggy.


The only reason I did not continue playing in VKs was this very idea. As someone new in early 2015, I was not able to figure out what was going on inside the server as I couldn't find normal gameplay other than a bunch of newbies with Batman car doing Car-glitch. Most of the players were in their private world with their preferred settings and objects that were in their favor not for the others. I may have not played VKs for long enough to know but that gave me a great reason not to. ViceLand was okay but I find this worldbuilding to be overly complicated, and unnecessary in a TDM server and trying to distract the main idea of the game which is Deathmatch. I think everyone whether underlalias or not should be free to play all in a single world, that's what TDM means, it's a complete showdown, and the /duel is just an extra to the game mode.

Part of the challenge and thrill of deathmatch gameplay is learning to adapt to the environment, including being outnumbered or overly annoyed. It pushes players to be strategic, think on their feet, and find creative solutions as I believe most of us call fives or tens of members the second we are outnumbered. This unpredictability is what keeps the game dynamic and engaging over time.

I believe many players love AC this way otherwise might join just a Freeroam server. Although innovation is important, it's equally important to preserve the essence of what makes AC servers special. Introducing private worlds could shift the focus away from this core experience, altering the very nature of the game.

Moreover shedding light on the "favorable worlds" I believe staff may have a hard time differentiating what people might consider legit or illegal in their private worlds.

I am not an AC player but whenever I want to enjoy my leisure time with my friends, it's this place.

Preserve AC. Thanks.

Aug 13, 2024, 10:47 AM #10 Last Edit: Aug 13, 2024, 10:51 AM by GerZ
Quote from: Fortune on Aug 13, 2024, 08:52 AMI am not an AC player but whenever I want to enjoy my leisure time with my friends, it's this place.

Preserve AC. Thanks.

You said it yourself, you're not an AC player so you don't know the struggles that someone goes through when trying to have a peaceful match with a friend nor a turns match which doesn't favor the /duel system,

Like I've said previously,the only reason behind why I want this to happen is to solve that problem, Broly himself told me to apply here after he saw how that underalias cafer was disturbing duels continuesly, it is not ideal to have a death match server in which you can't do these things peacefully,

This isn't a TDM server, this is supposed to be a desthmatch server which supports every aspect of dm


Also to add on that, I used to ban players from spawning by killing them contiunesly whenever they spawn and teleport to their locations, they used to either stay on spawn screen or leave the server, this world's system will prevent me from doing that and I'm okay with it, atleast now theyll have a place to hide in and enjoy the game rather than having me abuse the fact that the server has no safe space

Quote from: KILLERX on Aug 13, 2024, 08:56 PMPlease no VKS v2.
-1

funny how players who never do duels are voting -1, makes sense I guess as the current state of the server doesn't bother them, since they don't entertain that part of DM


Hey GerZ,

Thank you for the suggestion. I wanted to gauge the players' reactions, and many of the regular and skilled DMers have started messaging me, expressing that they believe it isn't a good idea and could harm the server's deathmatch experience. The number of people sharing this concern is significant, and they are well-known, regular players of AC.

Our goal is to encourage gang fights and wars on the server, and adding custom props might hinder that objective.
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